Showing posts with label how to get divorce. Show all posts
Showing posts with label how to get divorce. Show all posts

Wednesday, 5 August 2015

Indian Women are not liable for maintain Minor child or Old parents?

Responsibility to run Home should be on Women too : Says Judge Ms. Mona



We all know how women organizations and radical feminist gang keep blaming Indian society and mind set regarding preference of Son than girls in India. Given enough examples of how unfair Indian parents are towards their girl’s child.



But do you know who had promoted such mind set?

Do you know how they treat their own age old parents?

Do you know it is the women of the family prefer a son than girl’s more than male members?

Read the law CRPC125, the law was proposed by such women and radical feminist organizations only.

It may be noticed that Section 125(1) of Cr.P.C. reads as below:--

"Order for maintenance of wives, children and parents: -- (1) If any person having sufficient means neglects or refuses to maintain--
(a) his wife, unable to maintain herself, or
(b) his legitimate or illegitimate minor child, whether married or not unable to maintain itself, or
(c) his legitimate or illegitimate child (not being a married daughter) who has attained majority, where such child is by reason of any physical or mental abnormality or injury unable to maintain itself, or

(d) his father or mother, unable to maintain himself or herself, a Magistrate of the first class may upon proof of such neglect or refusal, order such person to make a monthly allowance for the maintenance of his wife or such child, father or mother at such monthly rate , as such Magistrate thinks fit, and to pay the same to such person as the Magistrate may from time to time direct:

Provided that the Magistrate may order the father of a minor female child referred to in Clause (b) to make such allowance, until she attains her majority if the Magistrate is satisfied that the husband of such minor female child, if married, is not possessed of sufficient means."

The question for consideration is whether the mother is liable to pay maintenance under Section 125(1)(b) of Cr.P.C. ?

It is true that in Clause (b) of Section 125 of Cr.P.C., the word used are 'his' legitimate or illegitimate minor child, and on that basis, it has been tried to be urged by many learned counsel for the petitioner that a mother would not be covered under this clause and cannot be held to be liable to pay maintenance.

Same way, women can’t be liable to maintain to her age old mother or father also as the word mentioned His, not his or her.


Go through Old age study, Elder abuse 32% by Daughter, 44% by Daughter-in-law, totally 76% and only 24% by son , but still as per DomesticViolence law an age old parents can’t file any case against daughter or daughter-in-law .

So, legally Indian women is not liable or responsible for any support to their own child , own age old parents , not punished if they do any Domestic Violence in family , where as every men is legally liable to maintain not only wife, child, age old parents , even Live-in partner also.

There were some HC judgements were available, where court had observed like, educated healthy women can’t simply sit idle and seek maintenance, earning women can’t refuse to maintain own child, but none of them got any node from Government when amended of law proposed. 

Like the Crpc125 had gone through many amended, like remove the cap for interim maintenance from Rs. 500 to Rs. 1500 and then remove all together and made it unlimited.

The CRPC125 also made the amended the word “Lived in adultery” to “living in adultery” lead to massive increase of adultery in India as women know if they got Caught red handed in adultery then also husband can’t refuse maintain her , as husband have to prove , she is still living in adultery . Tell me which stupid will continue the same when got caught red handed?

Result the wife advocate just say one word , she may be lived in adultery , but no evidence still she is living in adultery , all effort of Husband gone in dustbin. Keep paying her till she alive in-spite her wrong doing you caught red handed and proved in court.

Laws Loaded Against Men



So, the bottom line in when an India women is neither responsible nor liable to maintain even own child, age old parents and forget about Husband.  One must wonder, then what responsibility assigned to Indian women as per law.

NGOs working for men had bring the same to notice of Government , National commission of Women , Media houses , when we all agree on principal of No Work No Pay , then why you advocate to pay money to wife, when she is not staying with her Husband , even well educated , healthy also ?

When you are not staying with your husband, you have full free time and you can definitely work than sitting idle at home and keep claim money from husband, but when law gives you such free lunch why she will even try to work?

Unfair law promotes unfair practice only. If our government and women organizations really want fair treatment to women, they must amend the CRPC 125 as under:


1.      The word wife to be replaced by Spouse.
2.      The word His to be replaced by his or her.
3.      Living in adultery to be replaced by the word “Lived or living” in adultery.


If the same not done forget about any gender equality in this country and stop cry foul and keep blaming why Indian Parents prefer a son than daughter more or men should change their mind set.

First change your own mindset and accept every right comes with responsibility, at least take some responsibility for own child and age own parents in the law book, time being forget about taking care Husband.

We wonder under which university or collage it had been taught that by making unfair law, bring fairness in society? We would love to visit such education institutes.


Many of Misandric-Male haters will came out with logic, today’s women already taking care of their child, parents and even husbands also, right?

If so, why not get the same approved and recognized in the LAW book itself, when law does not recognize your effort which you claim doing for so long?



We know our Politicians and women organizations will never dare to amend such unfair law, as they themselves also enjoy the benefit of No Work but get paid, so it’s up to Supreme Court to take suo-motto action and correct the laws in the right sprite of Indian Constitution article 21: Right to live and liberty than hiding under special abused provision of 15(3).


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Monday, 6 July 2015

Workshop by NGO SFF at Delhi : Hope for Men



Ajoy and Bijay, both well educated guy working in Top MNC. Both of them studies hard, preformed excellent in their Professional life. They had attended best of world-class training program. Ask them any rule of Cricket game, you can’t beat them.

Irony is both them was in the dream to get married one day and get settled in India and will have a happy family. For them getting married was top most priority in their life, as if they don’t get married society will term them useless guy or not men enough.

 They used to consider the chances of disputes in their married life will be Nil, so never bothered to know the unfair, biased criminal laws of India related to marriage and family.

Result after marriage within few months have to face the reality of laws like 498A , Domestic Violence act, CRPC125, Section24 , Divorce along with his parents/relative charged with molestation ( 354) , attempt to rape  or rape ( 376).

Now, one hand when Ajoy take the path to fight back against such injustice and Join hands with SIF network, Bijay prefer to end his life by suicide.  

Ajoy was in the merge of arrest, as Police successfully able to manipulate the recent SC order regarding crpc41 , but with his knowledge and network , he able to come out from police station with head high after 8 hours detention .

On the other hand Bijay unable to face the reality and in the fear of getting arrest, fear of losing social reputation ends this life instead of fight back.

Ajoy today is a self supported volunteers who spread awareness , meet others who also victims like him, give them courage to fight against this injustice , where as Bijay suicide only became a small news in some local news papers and his age old parents, sisters running form pillar to post to fight the cases . They lost their main back bone already and dying every day.




Fear of arrest, fear of losing Job, fear of losing social reputation, fear of to be termed criminal for a crime which they had never do became a nightmare for every day. Their all knowledge, training program go in vain to find any logical solution.  Because this is called Legal Terrorism and there is no logic, how to find the solution. The fast you try to resolve the puzzle, you end up in more big trouble. 

There was two more guys Amir and Samir. Both is working in UK in top MNC and have tag of NRI. But their life changed when they prefer to get married to Indian girls. Within week’s time both termed as criminal under 498A along with his parents, relative, married sisters, married sisters Husband.

Amir started to find top well known advocates and fight hard to get bail. After paying lacks of rupees his parents get bail after spending spend 3 days in jail. In the mean time he changed 4 top rated advocate and the case status is after 7 years last month only charge sheet filed by police. Now he is again running from pillar to post to find top rated advocated so that his case can be taken as fast trail and decision comes in next 6 to 8 months.

But Samir, prefer to Join SIF networks, became a self supported volunteer, start to meet many victims like him in UK, try to update this knowledge, update this knowledge about Indian judiciary and plan his strategy and execute the same. Result within 3 years he came out as winner from Calcutta court.

The difference between them was, Samir try to find an advocate who can represent him in court, than he became representative of advocate, where as Amir became representative of his advocate than his advocate became representative of  him.

There were Ravinder and Shivendar . Both were accused to rape their office staff in a Lift. Both were high profile persons and both cases media trail done at their best.

Result Ravinder , spend months in Jail and at last able to secure bail from SC after spending lacks of money and political powers, as it is he himself advocated such unfair law, where any men can be termed  rapist by a women's verbal allegations, no medical evidence required. Power full men like Ravinder always ignored the caution we made time to time.

Shivendar also done the same mistakes like Ravinder , ignored our caution , but without any ego , he prefer to call SIF-one , than blindly follow advocate , result though he lost his Job, but able to secure AB from high court without arrest.

Now both are ready to fight back, but the damage in Ravinder cases had been done so much, very difficult to defend, whereas Shivendar build his case in such a way even media trail also failed to influence judiciary.
There is non-disputed theory, knowledge is power and the more you share it with others it increasing than decreasing.

None can snatch knowledge form you which you gained, but the money, assets, reputation you earned can be snatched in minute by any unfair Law of India, whose basic foundation principal is Women Never Lie and Women Never Cheat.

When you get trapped in such no- man’s land, except your own knowledge none can help you.
  • So, if you’re a Man married or working in India, its must for you to attend this training module of SFF in association with Hridaya at Delhi on 12th July from 2PM to 6PM.

How can You Join For free entry ?



Don’t think the chances of getting trapped in such cases in India is nil for you or your friend, your son, your brother or your father. We have even today witness many wives also calling us for help as their own husband get trapped by their office female staff in fake molestation, rape or workplace harassment cases.

So, SFF in association with Hridaya ,  invite you all irrespective of your caste, religion, sex or profession a must to attend Workshop called Hope for men and make knowledge a Power by witnessing many success and failure story of SIF Network movement.
P.S. All Name changed to Protect Person's privacy.





Saturday, 4 July 2015

Sacrifice, love and Care by Mother-in-Laws for Daughter-in-Law alwasy ignored



Yesterday night when I was reading some articles like: 
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  • 10 SIMPLE WAYS TO MAKE YOUR HOUSE LOOK CLEANER EVERY DAY

Never thought the little moments to be lost soon for many boys/men with their mother's, who will be termed as mother-in-law as soon as they will get married in India.


A Mother to be loved will be shifted to most hatred category called Mother-in-law.


Recently a well known politician showed me a SMS send by her wife: “After marriage your priority is to care your wife and own child, but you prefer to take care your Selfish Mother. “

Unfortunately the politician’s mother is a widow and more than 75 years old. Now he had only one option to send her widow mother to old age home, no other option.

Some where I had read a comment, if a daughter-in-law had not been cruel and selfish; there had not been any Old age home today. Thanks to Law makers, our cruel, abusive, selfish Daughter-in-Law never get any punishment by our Domestic Violence law, but for mother-in-laws they even have to leave their own home and go to old age home. 


In the morning got two small news cutting, a women life had been saved by her mother-in-law by donating her own Kidney, when the women’s own mother refused to donate the same in last moment in operation Table. 

A little moments , which failed to make any attention to any front line media houses or any political party leaders or any social activists tweet.

Mother-in-Law donate Kidney

Bengali News : Mother-In-Law donate Kidney


Such news never became a main stream media head lines or any long debate ever happened in India. The sacrifice , love, care by Mother-in-laws provide for their Daughter-in-law always had been ignored.

Start form child care, households works, preparation for festivals the un-paid work done by our mother-in-laws always ignored. Thanks to our "Sas bhi kabhi bahu thi " type (Once mother-in-law also was daughter-in-law) serials along with a un-written agenda by media houses, which gives MIL the tag of selfish, cruel and abusive only by default.

The hatred against mother-in-laws spared in such a way , that we forget every year more than 15000 unmarried girls ending their life via suicide on their own mother home, as per NCRB data which is 3-times higher when you compared to per lack population of girls/women died in their mother-in-law home.

The girls burnt alive or murdered in their own Mother home also not less than when compared to number of women/girls death in mother-in-laws home per lack population comparisons.

Now, when come to abusive, cruel, selfish daughter-in-law none will able to say that there is no such women exist. Few years back we have witness how a Jaipur daughter-in-law keep ill treating was recorded by a social activist and the same was termed as “Abhaki Maa” (unfortunate mother) .

Various elder abuse reports also suggest more than 70% daughter-in-law abuses and do domestic violence against their age old mother-in-laws. 

But read the Indian Domestic Violence law, when a mother-in-law face any form of domestic violence from daughter-in-law, there is no provision for any relief, as the respondent to be “Male” only.



It reminds me my Grandmothers love and care she provided to me in my school days, if I today compared is priceless, which I may not able to return her any cost.

Many of today’s mother-in-laws , broken our Joint family, moving towards single parent’s father less society even by breaking nuclear family in the name of liberation of women, today at receiving hand ,  but today’s daughter-in-laws must remember Bhau bhi kabhi Sas Hogi ( A daughter-in-law also will became one day Mother-in-Law ) .

We had coined the word like “Mygonist” who spread or promote female hatred,“Misandric” who spread or promote male hatred, but wonder what name to be given such people who spared and promote hate towards mother-in-laws of India, by ignoring their love sacrifice and care towards all family members.

At the end would like to share on a positive note, few months back I was witness to meet very strong, bold female actors, who was in news for various time and faced multiple cases for her comment towards sexual liberation of girls/women, surprisingly living last 15 years in a Joint family and do not shy away to say her 2-children always prefer her mother-in-laws company than her. 

Photo by Mark : Husband Sister , Mother also women
 






Tuesday, 25 March 2014

498A wife to be taking back or not?



The basic purpose of SIF is that our Brothers should be happy.



These are some of the advices we commonly offer:


1.         Yes, we advise people not to marry 498A abusing girls and their families.
2.         We also advise that you must not take back a 498A abusing wife.
3.         We advise you not to pay money or settle false cases and support our members to fight cases on merit. We suggest that you should pay what the court orders, rather than paying to settle the case.
4.         We do not advise you to file for divorce.

Every case is different; hence every case will have its own aims. We suggest a cautious approach and the decision to take a risk is in your hands. Do we disqualify anyone from SIF movement if they do eventually burn their hands and take a risk?

Answer is no.


However we do share our utter disappointment with those who have paid money in their first marriage, marry another 498A abusing woman and then come seeking our help. We believe that by paying off the first 498A abusing woman, you have sown the seeds for further abuse to another man.

The question then is why do we advise such strategies? The reason is that there are various risk factors secondary to gender biased laws in India like 498A, DV act, CRPC125 and anti-rape law to name a few.

In SIF we have followed these basic fundamental tenets since the inception of our movement. Anyone can confirm this by going through the very old messages on our yahoo group.


SIF aims to provide happiness to its family members. Our Mantra to success lies behind a basic formula: Stress = Uncertainty x Importance. Simple mathematics rule; make any of them zero and your stress will automatically become zero.


Most of our members take our suggestions, fight and win their cases. However there are many others who are not so courageous to fight such false cases. We do not judge them and support them like any other member of the SIF movement. We Do expect them Not to pay any money to get rid of the 498A abusing woman, since by not paying at least they are not allowing her to spoil another mans’ life. This is the least we can do for the society. We hold such men in high regard since they are doing whatever they can for the betterment of the society. 

Lets discuss the point of taking a 498A abusing wife back. It is indeed a risk, especially in the first 7 years of your marriage since in many cases Supreme Court has convicted people under 304B on mere evidence that there was a 498A filed earlier. Some people do end up taking that risk of taking 498A abusing wife without proper action planning. Such men eventually tend to suffer and indirectly create problems for others unknowingly. If you do wish to take that risk, then at least observe her behaviour while separated for 6 to 8 months and then cautiously consider taking her back. Taking a 498A abusing woman can be considered an interim strategy that will help you in the long run to win any cases later on.  

In many instances false 498A cases are not filed by wives, but by in-laws. In many other cases, the disputes are not between husband and wife but actually are family disputes. In family disputes we advise patience since with time situations tend to change for example after any of the troubling in-laws’ passes away. We have also seen family disputes happening when it was a love marriage and in-laws were not supportive of the marriage; and eventually became trouble makers later. Hence we say, every case is unique and needs careful assessment. 


Bottom line is that you know your case best, you know your ex best, you are the best judge to measure the risk that you can take, and you are in the best position to plan any consequences of the risks/actions taken today, i.e. what actions would you take if tomorrow the problem starts again. 


We suggest that your plan should have an immediate, an interim and a long term goal. As a basic litmus test for such 498A abusing wives, we encourage people to get a rented accommodation, invite her to stay with you, observe her behaviour closely and if problems are visible, collect evidence of her mis-deeds and leave that home.

Sadly some people misunderstand and worse still, attempt to malign SIF movement. Such people have never understood how SIF has withstood the test of time and managed to help lakhs of people in India and abroad. These people make false/fabricated lies on Facebook and other social/public networking sites. Such acts are strongly condemned. 

If anyone has doubts and is unable to understand SIF ideology, I invite them for discussions to help them understand who we are and how we have learnt from our success and failures over the years. In SIF we learn from each other’s successes and failures and grow strong.

A member is only shunned from SIF when he/she abuses SIF movement, undertakes anti-SIF activities, charges money in the name of membership/consultancy fees for the free advice we offer,  and violates basic guidelines as set by SIF. Those indulging in such anti-SIF activities will not have their numbers flashed as our helplines/members on our websites.

If SIF wanted to provide a paid service, we could have offered service using LAW firms. Law firms are always happy to help/advice by charging money as many of our members already know. SIF was created for a different purpose. 


We are a self-supported movement run by volunteers. We are not a money charging service provider. 


Lakhs of NGOs, Law and Consultancy firms undertake activities by charging money. If there is an addition of 1 or 2 in the list, it does not make any difference to SIF

SIF movement has not forced anyone to join the movement and neither does it stop anyone from leaving. 

SIFs ideology has been its backbone for survival over the years and if anything, it has got strong. 


Love it or hate it, but SIFs ideology remains what it was when it was created. 


The problems Indian men and families face are very complex due to biased, unfair laws and misandric society. Hence there is no fixed formula of success and I repeat every case is different.  You are the best judge of your risks and we can advise you best according to the risk you have measured. Our job is to help you assess the risk, think through with you about next steps and to spread awareness so that nobody else gets trapped like you. Please contact us through telephone or yahoo group. Ideally meet us in person at our weekly meetings that take place all across the country.

Finally, SIF wants all its members and other men in the country to be happy. Please learn from others, how they have measured risks, how they have taken cautious approach, how they have won cases and ensured happiness in their lives. 

If you are happy, we at SIF are happy !!